tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post988975820960230845..comments2023-09-09T21:06:41.688-07:00Comments on It's Pub Night: Draft vs. BottleBill Nighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-13013074868148427602011-12-12T11:10:07.564-08:002011-12-12T11:10:07.564-08:00I tasted a draft version of this year's Jubela...I tasted a draft version of this year's Jubelale over at Belmont Station the other night. It was much smoother than the bottled version. Even the Super Jubel served at the Holiday Ale Festival was smoother than the bottled version. <br /><br />My opinion remains the same: 2011 Jubel in a bottle will taste better with a bit of cellar time...though folks who like harsher winter beers may like it fine just the way it is.Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-50075802830598689852011-12-08T16:22:41.423-08:002011-12-08T16:22:41.423-08:00Dave, I will give you as many bottles of 2004 Jube...Dave, I will give you as many bottles of 2004 Jubelale as you want, if that helps rotate the stock.Bill Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-63967499349207069202011-12-07T20:55:02.315-08:002011-12-07T20:55:02.315-08:00Bill: Some of your bottles of Jubelale seemed a bi...Bill: Some of your bottles of Jubelale seemed a bit old. Maybe you should rotate your stock more often.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00095223694790180248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-9858776879794360732011-12-07T09:18:19.107-08:002011-12-07T09:18:19.107-08:00Lee: 99% of the time I pour bottles into a glass. ...Lee: 99% of the time I pour bottles into a glass. So my belief was that a glass of beer from a tap was usually tastier than a glass from a bottle.<br /><br />Ritch: I'll try that soon. I always thought of diacetyl problems as coming from not giving the yeast enough time to reabsorb it, so I had to look up <a href="http://www.homebrewzone.com/diacetyl.htm" rel="nofollow">diacetyl</a> to see what you were talking about. You are thinking there is a bacterial infection in the keg?<br /><br />Jeff: It definitely merits a more careful look. I've been thinking for a while I'd try it with three beers or so sometime, maybe set up a blind test at Beermongers. It just happened that I had the keg and bottles last weekend -- and I actually thought I had another matchup, but couldn't find any bottles to match the second keg -- so I went for it.Bill Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-73656513097303719042011-12-07T08:35:08.872-08:002011-12-07T08:35:08.872-08:00Bill, this is a worthy study, bit I think you need...Bill, this is a worthy study, bit I think you need a much larger sample size. My guess is that some beers will taste better bottled, some kegged. Those with more delicate, fleeting flavors will definitely do better on keg--unless you are lucky enough to score a really fresh bottle. Bigger, rounder beers like many Belgians will probably do as well or better in te bottle. Another factor is bottle conditioning.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-5253325093589746252011-12-07T08:00:38.790-08:002011-12-07T08:00:38.790-08:00Bill,
Sometimes some of the specialty malts will g...Bill,<br />Sometimes some of the specialty malts will give off a toffee, caramel flavor that can taste like a hint of diacetyl, but I only noticed it in the keg. If the diacetyl is from a infection, it usually gets stronger over time. Here's what you do, take a sample, warm it up (20 minutes in a hot water bath), cool it down in a cold water bath, then smell it and taste it.Ritchhttp://www.behindthepint.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-16042338202296771522011-12-06T19:43:57.939-08:002011-12-06T19:43:57.939-08:00I've thought about this question a lot lately,...I've thought about this question a lot lately, and I think I've decided: What makes us think draft is better is that we always drink draft from a glass. Beer always tastes better from the open pouring area of a glass than from the narrow hole of a bottle. It hits your palate better and more broadly from the glass. At home, I never drink directly from a bottle — I always pour it into a glass, and I think it tastes as good as draft. But I have no empirical data on which to base this opinion — it's just shoot from the hip conjecture. But it make sense: After all, the beer all comes from the same brewing facilities, right?Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588251769024959566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-21969031910159611782011-12-06T16:23:29.561-08:002011-12-06T16:23:29.561-08:00Ritch: There's plenty left in the keg; it'...Ritch: There's plenty left in the keg; it's over in Dave's kegerator now. But I think you're insane for thinking there's diacetyl in this year's Jubelale; I sure don't taste it. And if it was there, what would make the diacetyl increase over time?Bill Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-363878784076878262011-12-06T14:10:01.109-08:002011-12-06T14:10:01.109-08:00Bill, I thought the draft tasted like it had more ...Bill, I thought the draft tasted like it had more age on it than the bottle. The hops seemed to have dropped out and it was more malt forward. I also detected what I thought was a slight bit of diacetyl in the keg version and a bit of metallic flavor. I preferred the bottle version's crisp hop bitterness that balanced the malt sweetness of the beer. I don't know if you still have some of the keg left, but you'll have to let me know if it gets buttery.<br />RitchRitchhttp://www.behindthepint.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-74972035329571491862011-12-06T12:27:08.077-08:002011-12-06T12:27:08.077-08:00Last weekend I had some draft Anchor Steam Christm...Last weekend I had some draft Anchor Steam Christmas Ale and it was fabulous. Then I bought a six pack and it didn't even taste like the same beer. Hmmmm. Wish I was out west so I could have some draft Deschutes Jubilee. Enjoy!BeerWineChocolatehttp://www.beerwinechocolate.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com