tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post4014164523853681508..comments2023-09-09T21:06:41.688-07:00Comments on It's Pub Night: Portland Beer CartsBill Nighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-33782155412675667212012-02-22T14:58:38.811-08:002012-02-22T14:58:38.811-08:00It's only a matter of time till they come to s...It's only a matter of time till they come to some kind of conclusion on this issue. Hopefully nobody important jumps on the band wagon against this proposition.Mike Burnshttp://beercraving.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-44982329440013854262012-02-10T16:48:44.485-08:002012-02-10T16:48:44.485-08:00It is interesting. On one hand we have a group lo...It is interesting. On one hand we have a group looking to expand the availability of beer via food carts on the other hand we have a group (the city) trying to create an alcohol impact area banning all beer over 5.75% from down town, 23rd and the pearl. Originally there was going to be an exception for craft, but the city has taken that out of the petition due to possible legal issues. Also leaving if passed by the OLCC would be ALL 16 oz cans, 22 oz bombers and 24 oz cans regardless on alcohol content.<br /><br />I think beer carts are facing a tough battlepriceithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16143722662499174165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-27274291449315066132012-02-10T11:33:10.367-08:002012-02-10T11:33:10.367-08:00@Jim: Thanks, I'll add that!
@Pete: Totally a...@Jim: Thanks, I'll add that!<br /><br />@Pete: Totally agree about the TV. Just hoping for better from the remaining print media.<br /><br />@Helen: Thanks for the reply. I did reread the article, and I still maintain that the spin is "Oooh, dangerous alcohol is coming". Why do I say that? 1. The headline (print: "indigestion"; online: "officials fret"). 2. The first 9 paragraphs have a negative view of the matter, with words like "urgency", "drunkenness", "disorder", "ramifications", "can't rely on", and "broken". 3. Nowhere - <i>nowhere</i> - does the article mention that there are <i>already</i> carts serving beer, and that apparently they haven't caused drunkenness and disorder in their neighborhoods.<br /><br />I don't begrudge a writer a little "man bites dog". I do it myself, and this rant is an example. It's hard to get attention without some kind of conflict.<br /><br />But Helen (if you're still reading), why is the Oregonian so tone-deaf about beer? It's a major part of the town's cultural identity -- actually, even that of the state and region -- and it's on the rise. Why won't there be <i>two</i> beer columnists moving forward, instead of moving John to freelance, and now cutting his print columns in half?Bill Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202318621724165312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-2673486949469924392012-02-09T19:07:11.250-08:002012-02-09T19:07:11.250-08:00Hmm. Take another read of the article. I think it ...Hmm. Take another read of the article. I think it makes clear that *Portland officials* e.g. Sam Adams, Amanda Fritz are the ones who are worried about the implications and envisioning alcohol at the 700 carts, etc. It also includes the OLCC response and the Whiffies cart owner both pushing back against that assumption. Not really a call to whip up the masses in my opinion.<br />Helen Jung<br />(Oregonian breaking-news reporter but responding in my capacity as an avid beer drinker)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-67902267894459011762012-02-09T11:07:27.623-08:002012-02-09T11:07:27.623-08:00The media is all about causing hysteria. You think...The media is all about causing hysteria. You think The Oregonian is bad, take a gander at the local TV news. It's mostly cops, robbers, crashes, fires, floods, etc. They really have very little interest in informing the public. They prefer to scare you with sensational reporting. Forget the facts. It's sad.Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7828714141383213600.post-29216119872768267112012-02-09T11:01:20.543-08:002012-02-09T11:01:20.543-08:00not sure if it's still there, but this summer ...not sure if it's still there, but this summer there was a Lompoc cart at the pod at SE 52nd & foster.. it was in the back, and now there's more carts, so when i drive by where it was is blocked from view.Jim Bonomo aka GoodbyeOhiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06355938728009455030noreply@blogger.com